Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way – Metallica
We have often heard that we are obsessed with Trump. We’re not, ofcourse. Really. We’re not obsessed with Donnie Littlefinger at all. But yes, in this election cycle, we have sometimes given undue attention to Trump, as our incredulity turned to shock to borderline panic, but is now slowly returning to a careful equilibrium, as we realise that the majority of American people have not given in to the vile, race baiting, nativist demagoguery. We didn’t pay that much attention to the other side, after all Dems are supposed to be the “normal” ones in this election cycle, right? Not like the crazy bunch on the other wise having a d measuring contest…literally.
After the trainwreck of an interview of Bernie Sanders, which was analysed here by my colleague and co-editor, I thought of exclusively doing a post of Bernie memes, after all with followers like the ones Bernie has, its easier to hammer a point home with memes than words and maths, most of which will be too difficult for them to comprehend anyway.
But, it gave me a headache. I started following his twitter feed, till I couldn’t distinguish it from parody anymore, and realised, if I even try to ascribe a coherent policy it would be an injustice to the discipline of economics.
So, I chose the best FP bits for your entertainment. Please have a few bottles of Merlot right next to you. You’ll need it.
Daily News: And so how does that destroy the fabric of America?
Sanders: I’ll tell you how it does. If you are a corporation and the only damn thing you are concerned about is your profits. Let’s just give an example of a corporation that’s making money in America, today, but desiring to move to China or to Mexico to make even more money. That is destroying the moral fabric of this country. That is saying that I don’t care that the workers, here have worked for decades. It doesn’t matter to me. The only thing that matters is that I can make a little bit more money. That the dollar is all that is almighty. And I think that is the moral fabric.
No. Its. Not. There has been studies done on how protectionism is terrible and counterproductive for US, not to mention, it CANNOT BE DONE, UNLESS AMERICA TURNS TO A SOVIET STYLE AUTARKY. Secondly, Moral fabric?! Seriously? The American workers lost jobs, not because American manufacturing was outsourced suddenly, but because American consumers wanted that two dollar t shirt. Consumption drives growth, as lower prices influence more savings and subsequently more investment. The fact that Americans on an average can lead a lavish life, better than 90 percent population in the world, and yes, tweet about the “injustice of the system”, on an iPad, is because of the policies which enabled them to have that lifestyle. It is basic economics. Something Bernie or his followers never understood.
Daily News: So how would you stop that?
Sanders: I will stop it by renegotiating all of the trade agreements that we have. And by establishing principles that says that what fair trade is about is you are going to take into consideration the wages being paid to workers in other countries. And the environmental standards that exist.
Daily News: Good, thank you. So I want to focus you on some international issues, starting with Israel. While speaking forcefully of Israel’s need for security, you said that peace will require an end to attacks of all kinds and recognition of Israel’s right to exist. Just to be clear, does that mean recognition of Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state?
Sanders: Of course…that’s the status quo.
(Somewhere while spraypainting swastika and discussing how The Jews controls everything in the World, Joy Karega and other anti-semite American academics are extremely confused now.)
Daily News: Okay. You’ve called not just for a halting construction of so-called settlements on the West Bank, but you’ve also called for pulling back settlements, just as Israel did in Gaza. Describe the pullback that you have in mind.
Sanders: Well, that’s the Israeli government’s plan, but I think that right now…I’m not going to run the Israeli government. I’ve got enough problems trying to be a United States senator or maybe President of the United States.
Translation, I have no clue the next time a conflict or terror attack breaks out in Gaza, I don’t know what to say.
Daily News: And where you start on the negotiations is important.
Sanders: Here’s the main point that I want to make. I lived in Israel. I have family in Israel. I believe 100% not only in Israel’s right to exist, a right to exist in peace and security without having to face terrorist attacks. But from the United States’ point of view, I think, long-term, we cannot ignore the reality that you have large numbers of Palestinians who are suffering now, poverty rate off the charts, unemployment off the charts, Gaza remaining a destroyed area. And I think that for long-term peace in that region, and God knows nobody has been successful in that for 60 years, but there are good people on both sides, and Israel is not, cannot, just simply expand when it wants to expand with new settlements. So I think the United States has got to help work with the Palestinian people as well. I think that is the path toward peace.
Fair point, loads of Israelis themselves doesn’t accept the settlement building. I had a chat with Dr Meir Litvak of Haifa Uni once, he said that a lot of people are opposed to Bibi’s ultra nationalism. But here’s the thing also. There’s a section of Hamas, whose existence depends on anti-Israeli sentiments, they use human shields, and fires Grads from densely populated areas. Bernie essentially didn’t say a word about them.
Daily News: Why not, why it…
Sanders: Look, why don’t I support a million things in the world? I’m just telling you that I happen to believe…anybody help me out here, because I don’t remember the figures, but my recollection is over 10,000 innocent people were killed in Gaza. Does that sound right?
Daily News: I think it’s probably high, but we can look at that.
Sanders: I don’t have it in my number…but I think it’s over 10,000. My understanding is that a whole lot of apartment houses were leveled. Hospitals, I think, were bombed. So yeah, I do believe and I don’t think I’m alone in believing that Israel’s force was more indiscriminate than it should have been
Daily News: Okay. Now switching more broadly to the Middle East and some of the other troubled areas, with ISIS. The Obama administration has been using this drone program, right? What are your thoughts on that, their use of…
Sanders: Well, first off, let me just talk about the Middle East. I talked about one of the differences that exists between Secretary Clinton and myself. I think we can argue reasonably that the most important and significant and far-reaching debate that we’ve had on foreign policy in this country in recent years was on the war in Iraq. Not only did I vote against the war in Iraq, not only did I lead the opposition to the war, helped lead the opposition to the war in Iraq, if you look at the statements that I made on the floor of the House in 2002, sadly to say, much of what I feared would happen actually has happened. Hillary Clinton’s views were very different. She supported the war in Iraq.
Now, in terms of ISIS, this is a barbaric organization that obviously has got to be destroyed. But it must and can be destroyed without the United States getting involved in perpetual warfare in the Middle East, something that I fear very, very much.
So my view is that, very similar to what King Abdullah of Jordan said, that essentially the war against ISIS is a war over the soul of Islam. And the war must be won by Muslim troops on the ground with the support of the United States and other major powers. That is what I believe. And I think President Obama, who has been criticized roundly by Republicans and others for being “too soft,” “too weak,” whatever. In fact, that strategy is, under very difficult circumstances, actually beginning to prove to be a success. ISIS has lost about 40% of the territory it controlled in Iraq. We’ve seen the Iraqi army maybe, maybe God willing [knocks on wood], show some fighting spirit, being able to take back Ramadi. And so, we’ve seen some success.
Oh boy, so it is a battle for the soul of Islam, yea? Which means a small section of hardcore Islamists are controlling a major peaceloving population yea? But, here’s the catch…your administration REFUSED to even say that. And statistics don’t really prove that peace loving shariah hating myth. Yea, numbers.
Daily News: Okay. American Special Forces recently killed a top ISIS commander, after they’d hoped to capture him. They felt, from what the news reports were, that they had no choice at that. What would you do with a captured ISIS commander?
Sanders: Imprison him.
Daily News: Where?
Sanders: And try to get as much information out of him. If the question leads us to Guantanamo…
Daily News: Well, no, separate and apart from Guantanamo, it could be there, it could be anywhere. Where would a President Sanders imprison, interrogate? What would you do?
Sanders: Actually I haven’t thought about it a whole lot. I suppose, somewhere near the locale where that person was captured. The best location where that individual would be safely secured in a way that we can get information out of him.
Daily News: Would it be in the United States?
Sanders: Would it be in the United States? It could be, yeah.
(The casual ignorance…imagine if a Republican answered like this)
I could go on…but the rest of the interview is about Economics, and I leave it to the capable hand of Mitch for the next post.
Here’s the bottomline.
This man, is possibly not a fraud like Trump. He is genuinely passionate about the Wall Street is more evil than Sauron shtick. But this is also the man, who praised Nicaraguan dictatorship, praised Castro, and thought bread lines were impressive economic stability. His ideas of foreign and economic policy is outdated and is stuck in the 1970s, but that’s not all…the fact that he is lazy enough to even try to update it, is what makes him so dangerous.
As of his economic policies…